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Speech to His Majesty at the Council Table

Manuscript Pamphleteering in Early Stuart England (MPESE)




The Duke of Buckinghams Speeche to his majestie att the Councell table Aprill 4th 1628.
Sir me thinckes I nowe beholde you a greate kinge: for love is greater then majestie: opinion that your people loved you not had almost loste you in the opinion of the worlde. But this daye makes you appeare (as you are) a glorious kinge: Loved att home, and nowe to bee feared abroade. This fallinge out soe happily I beseeche you giue me leave to bee an humble sutor to your majestie: Firste for my selfe that I whoe have had the honour to have bynn your favorite, may nowe giue vpp my selfe unto them: they to bee your favorites and I to bee your servante. My seconde suite is, that they havinge done all soe well, you woulde accompte of them all as one, a body of many members, but all of one hearte: Opinion mighte have made them differ, but affection did make them to ioyne in like love in this greate gifte. For proportion yt beinge lesse then your occasions may aske, yet it is more then ever subiects did give in soe shorte a tyme tyme: nor I am I perswaded it will reste there for this is but as an earneste of there affections to lett you see and the worlde knowe what subiectes you haue, That when your honor and the good of the state is engaged and ayde asked in the ordinary waye of parliament you cannot wante. This is not a guifte of 5. subsedies alone, but the openinge of a myne of Subsedies that lyeth in there heartes: these good beginninges hath wroughte already theise good effects that they haue taken your hearte and drawen from you a declaracion that you will love parliaments. And againe, this will meete I make noe question with such respecte as there demaundes wilbee dutifull and moderate. For they that knowe thus to give, knowe what is fytte to aske, then cannot your majestie doe lesse then outgoe there demaundes, or els you doe lesse then your selfe of them, for your message begott truste (see pag: 12 4th of marche) and your promise must begette performance. This beinge done then shall I with a gladde hearte holde
with a gladde hearte holde
this worke aswell ended as begun, and then shall I hope yt parliamentes shalbee made hereafter soe frequente by the effectes and good vse of them, as shall have this further benefite to deterre from appreychinge your eares those Proiectors and inducers of innovations as disturbers of Churche and Common wealthe. Nowe soe to open my hearte and ease my greife maye yt please you to pardon me a worde more:/ I must confesse I have longe lived in payne, sleepe hath given me noe reste, favors and Fortunes noe contente, much have bynn my secrette sorrowes to bee thoughte the man of seperation that divided the kinge from his people, and them from him. But I hope yt shall appeare there are some mistaken mynds that woulde have made me the evill Spirite that walked betwixte a good Master and loyall subiectes for yll offices: wheras by your majesties favour I shall ever endeavor to approve my selfe a good sprite, breathinge nothinge but the beste services to them all. Therfore this daye I accompte more blessed to me, then my birthe daye, to see my selfe able to serve them: to see you broughte in love with parliaments: to see a parliament expresse somuch love to you./ Love them I beseech you, and God soe love me, and myne, as I ioye to see this daye./
I thinck this speeche was penned to his handes, for I have hearde hee is noe scholler &c. nether doth hee vnderstande the latyne tonge./




Proceedings at the Council Table BL Harley MS 390
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Proceedings at the Council Table

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That on friday the Eue of their fast, late in the afternoone beyond all expectation, the House of Commons gaue his Majestie without all condition/ .5. subsidies to be payed beweene this & Christmas. The report whereof being by Sir Iohn Cook carried to his Majestie his Majestie expressed wonderfull joy & contentment saying he was more happie then any of the Kings his predecessors were, &c & then asking Si Iohn Cook further by how many voices he carried it, he answered But by once voice; whereat his Majestie being at first somewhat appalled appalled, Sir Iohn replyed, his Majestie had so much the greater cause of joy, the whole House being so vnanimous, as they made all but One voice at which they say His Majestie wept. The Duke at the Counsell Table whither his Majestie was pre= sent humbly besought his Majestie to grant all the Parlaments desires, since he was perswaded they intended nothing more then his & the Kingdomes good. And the better to accomplish desire his Majestie to withdraw his favour from him, seing he was willing to sacrifice himselfe his honours & all that he had for the good of his Countrey And whereas he vnderstood, that his pluralitie of Offices was excepted against, he was contented to giue up the Master of the Horse to Marquesse Hammilton, The Warden of the Cinque Ports to the E of Carleile, when he returned from his Ambassadge. And for the Admiraltie, he desired onely to be Admirall in time of peace & at home, & that the Counsell & the Houses of Parlament might appoint another Admirall for all seruice at Sea. This was within few houres after the grant of the subsidies.
Secretary Cook returning to the House to signifie his Majesties ioyfull ex gracious acceptance & that his Majestie promised he would deny them nothing that any of his predecessors had granted them, for their liberties & immunities &c he added also, for a conclusion what service my Lord Duke had done in so earnestly beseeching his Majestie to giue the House full content in all their desires. For which Sir Iohn Eliot stood vp & checked him, saying, that they in what they had done had no respect to any but his Majestie alone, nor intended to giue any content but him onely, nor regarded any mans acceptance but his. Nor knew they of any other distinction but of King & Subjects & therefore accounted of the Great man no otherwise than as one of themselues, who together with them was to advise of meanes to giue his Majestie contentment in prouision for the good of the Kingdome. Wherevnto many in the House made an acclamation, Well spoken Sir Iohn Eiot.
On monday Last the Duke made a speach in the Lords house which they say, giues much contentment. The King is willing to yeeld to all they desire in behalfe of their liberties; onely stands some= what vpon the point o billetting of souldiers. which he sees , how he can yeeld to, as they desire it, without some maine diminution to his prerogatiue yet it is supposed, they they will agree


Worthie Sir/
This lettre enclosed was written time enough, but sent to late, or the Cheesman went too soone & sooner then he was wont. for it stayd behind. I sent it now to Kenford, if the Carrier carie it not to Bury to gett 2d more, as once he did. And I may make some amends for disappointing your expectation, at the usuall time; I sent with it the summe of ye Kings speech & Dukes formally printed. I wonder, whose wisedome it was, in this sort, to publish them thus checkmate together: but I hope you will excuse me for sending them. In my lettre I told you that the Duke in his speech made offer of resignation of some of his offices vpon this occasion: I saw it written from Court, & from the rela= tion of one that kept that Counsell-chamberdore all the while. But you shall find no such matter in this printed speech. It may be, it aws not thought fitt. The rest I wrot about the subsidies & the consequents, you may correct by what, I haue inscribed into the couer of the speaches, in the same words I receiued it yester= day from Mr Pory. whose intelligence I supp suppose is more more perfect, then that I had before, depending vpon memory.
The Parlament sittes euery day, saue onely this, the K himselfe moued to haue it so. The rest you shall receiue next saturday. In hast with my respect.
Christ College Aprill 13.

To the R worshipfull his much respect freind Sir Martin Stuteville Knight these at Dalham
Aprill. 12. et 15
Leaue this letter at Kenf Kenford at Mr James Fysons to be sent as aforesayd presently vpon the receipt
I pray be carefull that it be not carried to Bury.


Both speeches following were deliuered at the Coun= sell
table in the afternoone of th same day, when the five subsidies were granted in the House of Commons.
The same morning before the graunt, his Majestie had sent a most gracious message to the House, by Sir Iohn Cook, signifieing, that he would confirme all the priviledges of the subject conteined either in Magna charta, or elsewhere, in any manner, as they should think good to propound. Which message so privailed with them, as they presently fell into the discourse of giving, which ended with the graunt aforesayd. To this message is reference in the Dukes speach.


Aprill 4.
The proceeding of the Parliament, being this day related to the King, by the Councellors of the Commons House of Parliament.
HIS Maiestie vpon the report made, expressed great content- ment that it gaue him; not valewing the Money giuen, comparable to the hearts shewed in the way of the Guift: For although his great occasions of State did require more Money then at this time was giuen; yet now he made account he could not lacke since he had their loues; and that this day, he thought that he had gayned more Re- putation in Christendome, then if he had wonne many Battailes; Say- ing further, (according to his Speech the first day of the Parliament,) That they might easily make him in loue with
with Parliaments, (now he professed he was so:) And that we should finde the fruits of it by calling vs often to- gether, and to secure further feares, and create future confidence, he assu- red vs that we should enioy as great imunitie and freedom in his time, as euer we possessed or had vnder the Reigne of any the best Kings of this Realme.

The Duke of Bvckingham his Speach to his Maiestie on Friday being the
4th. of A- prill, 1628.
SIR,
MEE thinkes
I now behold you a great King; For loue is greater then Maiestie. Opinion that your People loued you not had almost lost you in the opinion of the World: but this day makes you appeare as you are, A glorious King loued at home, and now to bee feared abroad. This falling out so happily, I beseech you giue mee leaue to bee an humble Sutor vnto your Maiestie. First, for my selfe, that I who haue had the honour to be your Fauourite, may now giue vp
vp
my title vnto them, they to bee your Fauourite, and I to bee your Seruant. My second sute is, that they hauing all done so well, you will account of them all as one, a Body of many members, but all of one Heart. Opinion might haue made them differ, but Affection did moue them all to ioyne with like loue in this great Guift: for pro- portion it being lesse then your oc- casions may aske, yet it is more then euer Subiects did giue in so short a time: Nor am I perswaded it will rest there, for this is but as an ear- nest of their affections, to let you see, and the world know what Sub- iects you haue, that when your Ho- nour and the good of the State is en- gaged, and Ayde asked in the ordi- dinary way of Parliament, you can- not
not want
. This is not a gift of fiue Subsidies alone, but the opening of a Mine of Subsidies which lyeth in their hearts. This good beginning hath wrought already these ef- fects, they haue taken your heart, drawne from you a declaration that you will loue Parliaments. And a- gaine, this will be mett, I make no question, with such respect, that their demands will be iust, dutifull and moderate: For they that know thus to giue, knowe what is fit to aske: then cannot your Maiestie do lesse then outgoe their demands or else you doe lesse then your selfe, or them: For your Message begat trust, their trust and your promise must then beget performance. This being done, then shall I with a glad heart hold this worke as well ended as
as now begun, and then shall I hope that Parliaments shalbe made here- after so frequent, by the effects and good vse of them, as shall haue this further benefit, to deterre from ap- proaching your eares those Proiec- tors & Inducers of Innouation, as di- sturbers both of Church & Common- wealth. Now Sir, to open my heart and to ease my griefe, please you to pardon me a word more. I must confesse I haue long liued in paine, Sleepe hath giuen mee no rest, Fa- uours & Fortunes no content, much haue bene my secret sorrowes to be thought the man of Seperation, and that diuided the King from his peo- ple, and them from him; but I hope it shall appeare, they were some mi- staken mindes, that would haue made me the euill Spirit that wal- ked
ked betweene
a good Master and a loyall People for ill offices. VVhereas by your Maiesties fa- uour, I shall euer endeauour to ap- proue my selfe a good Spirit brea- thing nothing but the best of serui- ces vnto them all. Therefore this day I account more blessed vnto me then my birth, to see my selfe able to serue them, to see you brought in loue with Parliaments, to see a Parliament expresse such loue to you. Loue them I beseech you, and God so loue me and mine, as I ioy to see this day.


The next morning being satturday April. 5. Sr Iohn Cook made report of both these speaches to the House of Commons
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Which being done, Sir Iohn Eliott stept up, & taxed Mr Secretary for entermingling a subjects speech with the Kings message, whereby he might seeme (sayd he) to derogate from the honour & Majestie of a King. Nor could it become any subject, to beare himselfe in such a fashion, as if no grace out to descend from the King to ye people, nor any loyaltie ascend from the people to ye King, but through him onely./




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Proceedings at the Council Table BL Add MS 35331

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